John Green (1796-183x) & Talitha Cumi Adams (1792-186x)

John Green & Talitha Cumi Adams are my 4x great grandparents, the parents of my 3x great grandfather Caleb Green.

It’s very hard to untangle the Greens. Here’s my attempt. I would appreciate feedback from other researchers.

John Green was born about 1796, probably in Ontario, New York. He was the son of John Green & Anna Fritz. There is an unrecorded deed for Hardin County, Kentucky listing three heirs of John Green Sr. as Lumi Green (wife of deceased son John Green), Minerva Green Burba, and Pertheny Green Jenkins.

A story about John Sr. is posted on and here it is with my edits for readability: John Green and Nicholas Burbee came to Ontario County, New York from New Hampshire together in about 1794. John bought land in the Honeoye Lake region of Ontario County. In 1794, John became the owner of the farm of John G. Briggs, Esq., situated near the head of Honeoye Lake. He had a copper still in connection with farm work, and added mite to the many engaged with supplying the people with strong drink. Green was a Colonel in the War of 1812. While he was on business to Canada previous to the declaration of war, he was arrested by the British. They questioned him about the strength of the American army and any preparations for war. He would not tell them anything, so they resorted to partial hanging in hopes of getting the information. They apparently ran him up the rope a number of times and still he would not give them the information they requested. The last time they hanged him he lost consciousness. They brought him back down and when he came to they asked him again for information. The nearly exhausted man answered, “No by the Lord I won’t!” No effort could change his mind, and he was imprisoned. He escaped, and returned to the States. Due to this experience, he joined the army, served efficiently, and was commissioned colonel. A sawmill was built by John Green in Briggs Gully and was the first structure of the kind in the town south of Mill Creek.

On the 1800 US Census, John Sr. was head of a household in Pitts, Ontario, New York. It was a household of 4: 2 males under age 10; 1 male aged 26-44; 1 female aged 26-44.

On the 1810 US Census, John Sr. was head of a household in Honeoye, Ontario, New York. It was a household of 7: 1 male aged 10-15; 1 male aged 16-25; 1 male aged 45 and over; 2 females under age 10; 1 female aged 16-25; 1 female aged 26-44.

John Sr. moved the family to Kentucky in about 1818. They were one of many families who moved from New York to Kentucky around that time. They traded their land with Gideon Granger, a government surveyor and former Postmaster General. Granger bought poor farmland in western Kentucky and sold it to families in Ontario County, New York, claiming it was good farmland.  See “New York Migration” here.

John Sr. appears on the Tax Rolls in Hardin County, Kentucky in 1819.

Talitha Cumi Adams was born in about 1795 in New York. I believe her last name was Adams because her first son’s middle name was Adams. There were 31 Adams households in Ontario County, New York  in 1810. Three lived in the same town (Honeoye) as her future husband John. They were Alden, Isaac and James. Alden and James had daughters in Talitha’s age bracket (Isaac had younger daughters.) Alden’s will lists his children, and doesn’t list Talitha. So I think it’s possible that James A. Adams was Talitha’s father, and he appears to have been widowed by 1810. It’s also possible that her last name is not Adams.

The unusual name Talitha Cumi, according to several sources online, comes from the Biblical story in the Gospel of Mark in which Jesus Christ was said to have resurrected a dead child with the words “Talitha cumi!”

John and Talitha probably married in New York around 1818, just prior to the move to Kentucky.

On the 1820 US Census, they were living with John’s parents. John Green Sr. was head of household of 5 in Little York, Hardin, Kentucky: 1 male aged 16-18; 1 male aged 26-44 (John was 24); 1 male aged 44 and over (John Sr.); 1 female aged 10-14 (John Sr. & Anna’s daughter Pertheny); 1 female aged 45 and over (Anna). John Sr’s son-in-law William Foster and daughter Minerva lived nearby. (She would be widowed and marry Peter Burba before the next census.)

On the 1830 US Census, they were living with John’s parents. John Green Sr. was head of a household of 11 in Hardin County, Kentucky: 1 male under age 5; 1 male aged 5-9; 1 male aged 30-39 (John was 34); 1 male aged 60-69 (John Sr.); 2 females under age 5; 1 female aged 5-9; 1 female aged 30-39 (Talitha was 35); 1 female aged 60-69 (Anna); 1 male slave aged 36-54; 1 female slave aged 10-23. John Sr.’s son-in-laws (Peter Burba and Benjamin Jenkins) and daughters appear next on the census.

During the 1830s, John died along with his parents John Sr. & Anna.

On the 1840 US Census, Talitha was head of a household of 10 in Hardin County, Kentucky. The household included: 2 males aged 5-9; 1 male aged 10-14; 1 male aged 15-19; 1 female aged 10-14; 1 female aged 15-19; 1 female aged 40-49 (Talitha was 48); 1 female slave aged 10-23; 1 female slave aged 55-99.

In 1843, Talitha married Benjamin Sly on November 2 in Hardin County, Kentucky.

On the 1850 US Census, Talitha, age 58, and Benjamin, age 69, lived in Harrison, Indiana. Benjamin is thought to have died the next year.

On the 1860 US Census, Talitha was 65 and lived in Scott, Harrison, Indiana with daughter Harriet, her husband Burton Breedon, and their children.

The children of John Green & Talitha Cumi Adams:

This is a very incomplete list. Many Greens were married in Harrison County, Indiana from 1844-1860, and I attempted to follow each of them. Some I couldn’t find record of past their marriage.  Many listed their birth location as Indiana on later Census, which could of course be incorrect, but I haven’t included them. Many I linked to other parents – Elizabeth who married Hamilton Rainbolt in 1853; Charles who married Elizabeth Trobaugh in 1854; Lucy who married Eli Roberts in 1854; Priscilla who married Elbert Lamon in 1854; George who married Elizabeth Hoagland in 1855; Eliza who married Lewis Cotner.

John Adams Green – John was born in about 1820 in Hardin County, Kentucky. He married Olive Smith on July 15, 1841 in Hardin County, Kentucky. They had 5 children. The last record I have of them is the 1870 US Census when the family lived in Columbia, Gibson, Indiana.

Harriet Green –  Harriet was born in about 1825 in Hardin County, Kentucky. She married Burton Breeden on September 10, 1844 in Indiana. They had 5 children, the last one born in 1862. Harriet died shortly after.

Sarah Green – Sarah was born on April 1, 1827 in Hardin County, Kentucky. She married Uriah Breeden on June 13, 1845 in Harrison County, Indiana. They had 4 children, the last one born in 1856. Sarah died January 15, 1857 in Harrison County, Indiana. Her Find A Grave memorial is here.

Caleb Green – My 3x great grandfather Caleb was born February 1, 1832. He married Sarah Green on December 13, 1853 in Harrison County, Indiana. Caleb died on January 19, 1892. He was 59. His Find A Grave memorial is here. Read more about him here.